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Friday, August 29, 2008

Vetting Sarah Palin: Irl Stambaugh, Walt Monegan and Cronyism

It seems that John McCain's vice presidential pick Sarah Palin is not squeaky clean. In fact, she may be as corrupt as pretty much every other still living Alaskan Republican to have held statewide office (the Murkowskis, Ted Stevens, Don Young pretty much covers it).

It seems that in 1997, she almost got recalled as mayor of Wasilla?

What led to this? Seems she fired the city police chief and library director.

Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin fired the city's police chief and the library director without warning Thursday, accusing them of not fully supporting her efforts to govern. Irl Stambaugh and Mary Ellen Emmons said letters signed by Palin were dropped on their desks Thursday afternoon telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13 and that they no longer needed to report to work.


"Not fully supporting her efforts to govern" seems to have meant, "supporting her opponent, John Stein, in the 1996 election"

This led Police Chief Stambaugh to sue for breach of contract.

Three years later (via March 2nd, 2000's AP State and Local Wire), a federal judge ruled in favor of Palin. Not that she fired him for an ethical reason, though.

No, his ruling was that Alaska state law allows mayors to fire the chief of police for whatever reason he or she wanted.

But Singleton said that under state law, police chiefs serve at the behest of the mayor unless otherwise specified by city ordinance. Stein, the former mayor, had worked out an agreement with Stambaugh forbidding termination without cause, but the city council never voted on it, Singleton ruled.


So, essentially, Sarah Palin put personal loyalty over the safety of the people of Wasilla, Alaska and got away with it.


Of course, we've heard about how she did the same thing recently with Alaska public safety commissioner Walt Monegan.


So for Sarah Palin, security does not come first. Like George Bush, it takes a backseat to personal loyalty and cronyism.

62 comments:

thistledown musings said...

I lived in Wasilla at that time. Palin is not who we want for VP. And I am glad that you found this item.

Anonymous said...

SOOOOO, she fired someone, who claims he was fired for supporting her opponent (her side of the story is not mentioned), and a Court ruled she did nothing wrong?

WEAK.

Wendy said...

So...

Obama's not ready to be president because he's only been a senator for 4 years. Palin is ready because she's been Alaska governor for 2? Oh, and I loved how one of the qualifications she touted in her speech this morning was that she was in her local PTA. That's just great.

McCain picks an inexperienced governor that no one outside of RNC circles has ever heard of, her biggest qualification is that she has a vulva, and oh, by the way, she's under investigation in a corruption scandal.

Wow. Way to go, McCain.

Marcy Rauer Wagman, Esq. said...

Incredible. This is pandering at its lowest. Does McCain think that all women are interchangeable? Hillary and Sarah, well, they have the same genitalia, so, c'mon gals, a vote for Sarah is a vote for Hillary! Disgusting. Not to mention the fact that this pick completely and utterly deflates McCain's prime argument against Obama - that he lacks the experience to be Commander-In-Chief. Palin may have the experience to coach a kid's soccer team, but certainly not to run the USA. Plus, she's under investigation for corruption (surprise). Irresponsible, insulting, stupid choice. America, wake up! She is truly scary, even scarier than a senile McCain.

Tom in VT said...

That's right, Wendy, she got involved in the PTA. Which is still more credible than Senator Obama's claim to Rick Warren that he was ready to represent the United States in foreign policy matters because... because... because... he lived overseas as a child and - Folks, you just can't make this stuff up! - and because his undergrad major was international relations!

keglined said...

Awesome research. She's a scumbag. What a shock eh?

Tom said...

It really is a pain when people don't do their homework.

Google: Troopergate Halcro

Since Andrew Halcro "broke" the story, here is a shortcut, it works wonders.

http://thomasalamb.blogspot.com/2008/07/troopergate-via-andrew-halcro.html

Anonymous said...

"a Court ruled she did nothing wrong?"

No. A court ruled she did nothing illegal.

Anonymous said...

An article from a few days before the one noted above:

WASILLA KEEPS LIBRARIAN, BUT POLICE CHIEF IS OUT
BYLINE: S.J. Komarnitsky; Daily News Mat-Su Bureau
SECTION: METRO, Pg. 1B
LENGTH: 479 words
DATELINE: Palmer

City librarian Mary Ellen Emmons will stay, but Police Chief Irl Stambaugh is on his own, Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin announced Friday.

The decision came one day after letters signed by Palin were dropped on Stambaugh's and Emmon's desks, telling them their jobs were over as of Feb. 13.

The mayor told them she appreciated their service but felt it was time for a change. ''I do not feel I have your full support in my efforts to govern the city of Wasilla. Therefore I intend to terminate your employment ...'' the letter said.


Palin said Friday she now feels Emmons supports her but does not feel the same about Stambaugh.

As to what prompted the change, Palin said she now has Emmons' assurance that she is behind her. She refused to give details about how Stambaugh has not supported her, saying only that ''You know in your heart when someone is supportive of you.''

The three met briefly at Wasilla City Hall Friday afternoon, and Palin called them twice at Stambaugh's home before making the decision.

Palin said she asked Emmons if she would support efforts to merge the library and museum operations. Emmons said she would, according to Palin.

Her conversation with Stambaugh was short, both said. He asked: ''What's the basis for this?'' and she gave no details.

The actions have caused a stir in Wasilla, a town of about 4,600. City Councilman Nick Carney, who has been an outspoken critic of Palin, said he received several calls at his home Thursday night and Friday from outraged citizens.

The sudden personnel shift is part of bigger problem of mismanagement in the city, he said, and may prompt a recall petition.

''Before, I told (people) to hold off, but now all bets are off,'' he said. ''I fail to see what good this is doing for Wasilla.''

But Councilwoman Judy Patrick said people voted change when they elected Palin and part of that is changing who is in charge.

Reached at home, Stambaugh said he still doesn't understand why he's been fired. ''There never was an appropriate response,'' he said. ''How did we not support the administration?''

Now he's talking to an attorney. While both Stambaugh and Emmons serve at the mayor's pleasure, Stambaugh said he has a contract that prohibits the city from firing him without cause.

Both Stambaugh and Emmons publicly supported Palin's opponent, long-time mayor John Stein during the campaign last fall. When she was elected, Palin questioned their loyalty and initially asked for their resignations. But Stambaugh said he thought any questions had been resolved.

Stambaugh has headed the Wasilla Police Department since it was created in 1993. Before that, he worked 22 years with Anchorage Police Department, rising to the rank of captain before retiring.

Emmons, who has been the city's library director for seven years, would not comment about the affair.

Anonymous said...

OOPS! Here's the dateline on that article just above.

February 1, 1997, Saturday,

Anonymous said...

She has a disabled child. Isn't that all the qualification she needs to be the backup to the oldest president-elect in history?

Anonymous said...

she seems to have made quite a habit of lying about things... she admitted to lying about trooper-gate, she obviously lied here and she started off her VP run with the lie that she opposed the "bridge to nowhere"

http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/082908/sta_325107252.shtml


simple as bush, vindictive as cheney... not more of the same, worse...

Pete said...

... Senator Obama's claim to Rick Warren that he was ready to represent the United States in foreign policy matters because... because... because... he lived overseas as a child and - Folks, you just can't make this stuff up! - and because his undergrad major was international relations!

Er, I guess you can make this stuff up, Tom in VT.

Check out the transcript of the Saddleback Civil Forum. You see Obama say anything about living overseas or majoring in international relations?

Erik said...

Thanks for the info Hat Theif ... here's a more recent jewel - from July 31st on CNBC,

"As for that VP talk all the time, I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me 'What is it exactly that the VP does every day?'"

Anonymous said...

This pick is so weird, so obviously weak, so manipulative, so cynically calculated that we must now ask an important question:

Is John McCain senile? Has the Alzheimer's already started affecting his judgement?

When a presidential candidate selects a VP, we see his decision making process. McCain's judgement is totally flawed, without thought, and he ignores facts.

Like the fact that Palin is already corrupt.

SteveC said...

so she says that "you know in your heart when someone is not behind you"..who do we know makes decisions by the feelings in their body parts (in their case gut)? I don't want to mention any names but their initials are John mCCain and George Bush.. this story get's better and better.

Anonymous said...

Maybe she was an advisor to Karl Rove and Alberto Gonzalez in the firing of the US Attorneys.

thomast said...

The Palin pick is laughable on the experience front, and the Troppergate thing is real. But a chief executive terminating the chief law enforcement officer of a previous administration when something has happened (who knows what) that makes it difficult for her to do her job as she sees fit is not a scandal.

As the comment above shows, she was willing to negotiate and discuss, and rescinded one of her terminations.

The termination may be judged (with A LOT of additional information) to be poor politics or poor governance, but the suggestion that it's a prima fascie bad act is bogus.

There's a lot of material available to demonstrate that she's not remotely worthy of being the next VP, let's not grasp at straws.

Anonymous said...

LOL, at least Palin has been honest about ONE thing: she claimed - on air - that she has no clue what a Vice President does.

Sarah Palin told Larry Kudlow less than two months ago .... that she can’t answer whether or not she would accept the VP offer because she has no idea what the Vice President does.

Miss Thing said so on live air; you too can LISTEN:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-july-2008-i-dont-even-know-what-the-vice-president-does/

Apparently that's what qualifies her to put her hand on one of 800 versions of the Bible and get sworn in as President of the GOP's choreographed Un-United States of America if the elderly McCain drops dead while in office.

Anonymous said...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/08/29/sarah-palin-july-2008-i-dont-even-know-what-the-vice-president-does/

the "whole" link for Missy Palin's on air confession of ignorance.

Anonymous said...

Sarah Palin has the potential to be one of the greatest presidents in the history of the US. She has spent her entire adult life preparing for high office. She's reputed to be a good shot, she can clean a fish, and she is pious according to her lights. What else, really, is required? A true populist, she stands for the principle - or rather embodies it without having to stand for it - that people whose minds are uncultivated, unfurnished, and untrained are no less qualified for office than serious, thoughtful people who have devoted their lives to the study of politics and the public good.


She will perfectly illustrate to an astonished and saddened world what our country has become!

Anonymous said...

McSame has a new pick-up line:
"Do you want to be VP of a large country?"

Adam Cole said...

I really like how McCain is on Fox News Sunday talking up how Sarah's his "soulmate".

This, after a 15-minute conversation at their first and ONLY meeting--a Feb. 2008 GOP gubernatorial bash--and a last-minute reactive decision to pass over his preferred pick (Joe Lieberman, a liberal with hawkish views on Iraq) for a fundie conservative with zero foreign policy views (but who just happens to be a woman).

In other words, he's done a complete 180 on his criteria for "ready to step in from day one". And his blind-date pick isn't just unknown to the electorate--she's barely known even to her running mate!

I don't have that Republican gift for seeing into others' souls, but John McCain's obviously isn't moored to anything more substantial than the political winds.

Anonymous said...

We don't know a thing about Todd Palin and his Wikipedia info is slim to say the least. He's been accused of being the "shadow" governor but other than the Wiki info, has he been properly vetted? What's in his background?

Anonymous said...

Of the four people in this race, three were vetted nationally and were chosen by millions of people. Biden has the most experience of the four.

McCain has shown us his cards, and they say that he is an impulsive gambler.

Anonymous said...

I like how everyone is worried about Palin's experience, and they compare it to Obama's 4 years.

Except that Obama is running for PRESIDENT. At least Palin will have the opportunity to learn from an experienced politician. Obama will be learning on the job.

Which would you rather have?


P.S. The "nearly recalled" argument was week; you know how easy it is to get 60 people together in a small town? I'm sure the 60 people were friends of the 2 people fired.

Anonymous said...

Obviously, there is a need to bring some sanity to these proceedings. Let us look on the bright side:

1. Palin's credentials for VP are irrelevant. All that matter are her qualifications (beauty queen, expert hunter, Mayor, Governor, white supremacist?)

2. China has clearly demonstrated during the Olympics that they are poised to play a dominant role in world politics and international finance. Michael Phelps won 8 gold medals during the Olympics in China. Therefore, Michael Phelps has had more success in international affairs relevant to the 21st century then either Obama or Palin, and should have been the VP pick.

3. Now that I think about it, I am insulted that John McCain did not choose Michael Phelps as his VP.

legacy said...

One week attending Foreign Relations classes is better experience than a few years of being the mayor of Mayberry.

I wonder if Maybery's mayor wold draw a crowd of 200,00 in Germany.

Joshua said...

If you put the Wasilla firings into perspective, here's what you get: a boss fires two employees who were trying to get her replaced. Simple as that. She broke no laws. End of story.

People don't throw a fit if it happens in a business why should it be any different in government?

And as for McCain's pick: The VP pick has almost always been used to balance out any perceived weaknesses in a candidate. Obama picked Biden, chair of the foreign relations committee, because Obama has zero foreign policy experience. Bush chose Cheney also because of his lack of foreign policy experience.

McCain's choice wasn't manipulative, or a sign of a senile man. He picked Pail because of her experience in standing up to people--even those in her own party--and also because of age I think.

Unlike the office of presidency, the vice presidency is a place where one can learn and gain experience--the VPs only official duty is to break-ties in the senate. The experience argument holds little weight when you're talking about the VP pick. However, when you're talking about a presidential candidate, experience is everything.

Anonymous said...

McCain needs someone young like Palin to help him walk. Has anyone noticed when he gets out of a plane, he needs to hold the railing on one side and his wife holds him on the the other side I think he would fall flat on his face. Palin looks like his grand-daughter!!!!!!!
The "C" in conservative means Cronyism

Anonymous said...

Palin is a SCUMBAG!!! - That is why her own party opened an ethics investigation into her actons in "Troopergate" just two months ago.

Her own campain manager when whe was running for mayor even now says she isn't fit to be mayor, let alone VP.

Hasn't people forgot she was the one pushing for "The bridge to nowhere" in Alaska, which turned out to be a 25 Million dollar pork funding scandal that all us middle to lower class taxpayers got stuck with paying the bill for. Now she has even flip-flopped on that one and tries to look clean of it.

She also is in the pockets of big oil - pushing for opening up of the Alsakan reserve when studies show it would do little impact on oil supply but a big impact on the environment.

All it will do is get her's and McCain's rich oil friends even richer. Isn't that why they went inot Iarq in the first place and made thae oil / safety pack with Saudi Arabia after 911 where the hijackers were funded and came from??

Just read the articles about how Palins own constituents in Alaska are against her. Typical SCUMBAG!!!

Anonymous said...

With McCain's senility and one heartbeat away from death (Or perhaps his four boughts with cancer will come back in a final 5th) is it really wise judgement to get somone with no experience in politics but plenty of experience in corruption?

The Ripley Porch said...

Having grown up in a small "backwoods" town...there is an element of public service that most people don't realize. In small towns....over half of the elected officials are incompetent and lacking professional qualifications. You go into elections with various previously elected or appointed folks making big statements across a town on how this candidate is a "loser" and they can't support a person like this (they'll even say it in town hall and across the newspaper)...then election day comes...and they are shocked that the "loser" won....is now their boss.

This past week in my hometown...the election was held. For mayor...candidate number one: we had the incompetent old geezer who mostly plays poker with folks and has no previous background at anything other than welding. Candidate number two is the previously fired police chief who cooked the books and had the second highest state average for DUI tickets for a one-cop town in the entire state. Candidate three is a local guy who mostly talks big but never delvers...and has a quarter of the town terribly upset over verbal threats he has made at various meetings. All three are losers, but they are the only candidates running.

Most of don't attend townhall meetings and never grasp all of the garbage being discussed at cityhall meetings. I know of a town in Alabama that voted for a fantasic new sewage and water system...then grasped two years later what the town council had signed each resident to a minimum of $85 a month for waste and water service...it had been $18 before. Then came the shocker that the hook-up fee was $900 for each house. Those on minimum wage couldn't afford it. The town council said "tough luck"...and charged on.

This is life in smalltown America, and its really not that pretty.

Anonymous said...

The chief of police and other law enforcement officers disagreed with Sarah's position on bar hours and the librarian refused to remove an "anti-Christian" book from the library, in addition to their supporting her adversary.

When she ran for Governor, I asked a relative of hers what they thought of her. The response was that you can't believe a thing she says, citing her doublespeak on keeping Alaska's Capital in Juneau, which is a perennial issue in Alaska. As Mayor, she signed a resolution to move the Capital to Wasilla. As Governor, she assured Juneau residents that she would keep the Capital in Juneau but now has effectively moved the State government to Anchorage, within commuting distance of her home in Wasilla. She rarely visits Juneau, the supposed seat of goverment, but governs from her offices in Anchorage.

On her flip-flop regarding the Bridge to Nowhere, after she realized what a political issue it was she backed off somewhat on her support but kept all the money in the earmark, using some on a watered down Gravina Bridge project and using the rest of the earmark on other projects around the State. So she really didn't turn any money down.

Her selection raises serious concerns about McCain's judgement.

USpace said...

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This is going to be fun. History will be made, one way or another, and it looks more likely now that it will be the right history.

Even more Hillary supporters will go for McCain now. Obama is no longer a near certainty. Heaven forbid something happens to McCain, but I believe Palin would rise to the occasion. She has the right attitude. Everyone knows Obama is NOT ready for POTUS, Palin is only for the VP. Look at Dan Quayle.

YEY SARAH PALIN! YEY John McCain! Great pick! The 1st woman for the GOP VP? SCORE!

She's conservative! SCORE! She's a Governor! SCORE! She's pro-drilling! She's a hunter! SCORE! She doesn't believe the MMGW Scam! SCORE! She's a hockey Mom and played basketball in school! SCORE! She's pro-life! And she respects women! SCORE! She fights corruption! SCORE! She's high-energy! SCORE! She's tough! SCORE! She's got 5 kids! SCORE! Her son is going to Iraq in the Armed Forces! SCORE! She's married to a Blue-collar professional! SCORE! She's smart! SCORE! She's young! SCORE!

And she's a Hotty to boot! SCORE! The Left is going to go nuts! SCORE!
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never elect a woman

who's a conservative
she's just a gender traitor

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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
just HOPE to pay more taxes

DREAM about high fuel prices
CHANGE PROGRESS to move backwards

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Anonymous said...

Yeah, Tom, I mean he's only been a member of the Foreign Relations committee for four years. He obviously knows nothing about foreign policy unlike Sarah, who lives next to Russia!

Anonymous said...

and the McCain campaign guy (Tucker somebody) telling Campbell Brown that Guv Palin also has "command military experience" because the gov is the Commander in Chief of the Alaska National Guard and she "deployed troops to Iraq." GIMME A BREAK

Anonymous said...

Keep digging. Somebody please shell out the $2.95 and access the whole articles!

Between this, her general Palookaville-ness, and her AIP connections, we can turn her nomination into the embarrassment for the Republicans that is so richly deserved.

EX-Republican Fem said...

This is already an embarrassment to the GOP. The mere announcement that she was the VP choice is utterly shameful. A BA in JOURNALISM. That old fart wants to hand the full force of the American Military over to a PTA mom with a BA in Journalism.

Including state government... Obama has 11 years experience. Palin has 2. If state government doesn't count... she has NONE.

An ant1-sex education mom... whose own teenage daughter is pregnant. That's greeaaat.

This nomination is a slap in the fact to women all over this country. It exemplifies that THIS is what the GOP thinks of women. "You don't need to KNOW anything. Just read the words we write for you and sit there looking pretty. That's a good girl."

I will NEVER vote Republican again.

Anonymous said...

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.

H. L. Mencken

Anonymous said...

Almost got recalled? Are you fu**ing kidding! 60 people got together because they were upset at her. Wasilla has over 6000 residents. Gee that is 1% of the population.

Oh the angry liberal mob will be beside themselves when Obama loses!!!!

Anonymous said...

Palin is dictatorial and emperious. She does not tolerate dissent from her rigid views. One of her first moves as Governor of Alaska was to fire the entire state Agricultural Board because they refused to change a carefully deliberated decision to close a state-subsidized dairy plant that had been losing money for years. Palin was worried about literally a few dairy farmers from her hometown Wasilla who stood to lose some money if the state plant closed. After firing the entire Ag board, Palin appointed a new board composed completely of people from just her area of Alaska (Mat-SU Valley) -- ignoring traditional representation from around the state. Within months, that "crony" board reached the same conclusion as the prior AG board and decided to close the dairy plant. Unfortunately for Alaska, the result of Palin's impetuous and questionable behavior in intervening and firing an entire board who merely disagreed with her, was the state lost hundreds of thousands of dollars more than it would have had the dairy plant been closed earlier as originally planned.

Anonymous said...

How come no one is talking about the fact that Palin violated federal law by flying home to Alaska from an oil convention in Houston, when she was 9 months pregnant? She hid her pregnancy from airport security AND flew on an 8 hr flight -- after her water broke during the convention! How many mothers would do that? That risked her baby's life and her own. She even stayed to give a keynote speech at the oil convention after her water broke while she was waiting to speak.

Then Palin flew home and gave birth early am the next morning.

Talk about irresponsible, poor judgement and flagrant disregard for federal law and the life of her child. Certainly not my idea of a role model for young women or mothers.

Joseph said...

She also fired the library director. What in the world could ever justify that?

pgbsan said...

I personally think this is a sloppy attack; there are much better and more substantive ways to go after her.

She was using power given to her, maybe not in ways that people would agree with her, but that is her purview.

Also, the bit about almost being recalled is kind of silly. So 60 people showed up one day to talk about recalling her? So what? That same snippet of an article says that those people backed off the "threat." It seems as if there were high passions around that time and some people threatened to recall; these things happen ALL THE TIME in America's cities and towns. It's not a big deal.

Her efforts at acquiring federal pork for her city, leaving the city $22MM in debt upon her departure, deciding to take a 13-hour flight from Texas to Alaska (and another 45 minute drive to a hospital in her hometown) after her water broke, etc.

NotSocialist said...

Socialism has been tried elsewhere and has failed miserably. The United States will not stand for socialism. Obama is a socialist, so he's got issues. Chances are O'Reilly will call him a socialist to his face on Thursday. I would be interested to hear his response.

McCain/Palin will win. Obama can hope to win but his showboating and non-experience will not win over America. Not to mention his associations with Ayers, Wright, Phleger, and Rezco. A man with no experience will be judged on his associations, and Obama's judgment looks TERRIBLE!! He is not qualified to be POTUS.

Anonymous said...

Who said Obama has 4 years as Senator? Not so. He has 145 working days as Senator before he officially began running for POTUS. He is not remotely qualified.

Maybe we could send him to Germany to be their president since they like him so much that 200,000 showed up for his speech. Oh. Right. I forgot. They showed up for a rock concert, free beer and bratwurst...a captive audience for Mr. Popularity.

Anonymous said...

Wow. I would say some of this stuff is pretty telling.

Staying to give a convention speech to a bunch of oil execs AFTER her water broke says a lot about her judgement and her priorities in my opinion. Family first? hah.

What mother or father would risk the life of their unborn child, or the mother, by boarding a flight after the mother's water has broken?? And if Palin intentionally violated federal law in doing so, what does that say about her integrity?

There are good reasons for banning flight during the final stages of a pregnancy. To protect the life of the child, the mother and other passengers.

For me, this really brings her judgement and character into question. Especially as a mother.

It seems the only time Palin truly puts her "family first" is when they stand in front of her for a campaign photo op.

Philly Gadfly said...

If your water breaks, you are on the clock. You may give birth 20 hours later or two hours later. If you are in mid air and go into labor, the plane will quite possibly be forced to make an emergency landing, which would be a burden on air traffic control and not particularly convenient for her fellow passengers on Air Alaska. (KTUU and the AP reported that she flew back Air Alaska) Did any of this occur to her?

Anonymous said...

oh come on. Tax you dont know in alaska what tax is. what 1or 2% hahahahahah try 9% city on pay checks and 7% on everything you by like Denver.... We dont have tax here. hahahahah You can go to McDonalds and eat a heart attack in a box once a week, and thats over the tax you pay... GET REAL. Sarah rocked the house tonight. And she pissed off lots of people. LOTS.... hahahahah Sarah Cuda.... she got my vote and millions of others will think the same. She is a people person. YES she cares about us.. as far as this trooper. GET RID OF HIM........ Go Sarah Go....

Anonymous said...

Top three reasons I won't vote for Sarah Palin as John McCain's running mate:

#1 She's McCain's running mate
#2 She's a pro-lifer
#3 She's pro-Iraq War

I don't care a bit about the other stuff. I'm an issues voter.

Anonymous said...

god forbid having someone capable of actual thought and the ability to engage in a genuine respectful argument occupyiny the white house,especially in a time of national crisis.
four legs good, two legs bad.

Anonymous said...

I agree with all of you. Those who don't like her fear she will be the one. Those who do like her know she will be the one. I guess we all agree... she'll be the one. Burn your "Heart" records. LOL

noel said...

I think McCain and Palin do not want the truth to come out about her firing Monegan. They did not do the homework that they should have before selecting her. Yes, I think evidence will show that Palin is involved in Monegan's firing! Hell, she wanted to ban books in a library and fired the librarian who disagreed with her. Seems if you disagree with her, then you are out! Additionally, she worries me, a mom who is Pro-Life but hunts helpless animals from a helicopter! I guess animals are not one of God's Species and therefore has no RIGHT TO LIFE!

But what's most important are the issues at hand. We need a health care system where people can go get medical help when needed. We never should have entered into this War with Iraq - they lied to us! The middle class needs a tax break. Gas is WAY TO HIGH! We keep hearing how much in profits these oil companies have made. We need to do something about the environment and develop clean energy options. McCain DID NOT SUPPORT the Clean Energy bill at all! I don't think drilling more is the answer!

The baby issue - While I would not have an abortion, I think each woman has a RIGHT TO CHOOSE! The whole thing with Palin's daughter being pregnant - too bad for her because she is so terribly young! I work in a high school where this happens to young teen girls! I think this is a national crisis - instead of encouraging ABSTIENCE as the only method (which by the way ain't working) we should try to use every bit of resource when teaching kids about Sex Education including birth control and my GOD protection agains STD's and AIDS! I would have appreciated Palin more honestly if she had been like a regular mom in saying - maybe this is not exactly what I wanted for my young daughter and also saying yeah I'm not thrilled to be a grandparent yet because I would have liked to see my daughter grow a bit more before becoming a parent! I know Palin has to love and support her daughter now - great! But it's almost like she just promoted it's ok to be a 17 year old teen who is pregnant!

Anonymous said...

I am SO glad I found out that other people find Sarah Palin scary as hell. NO foreign policy experience and the media is parading her around as the new American Idol- "she can do this and she can do that". Yea- I was once a model, I can bake brownies, sit on my city council committee, change my baby's diaper and work a full time job too- that DOES NOT qualify me to be the freekin' VP of the country. WAKE-UP people- don't let them blind side us again with the glitter. All that glitters is definitely NOT gold.

noel said...

anonymous
I just wish that the republicans will let Palin stand on her own two feet. If you question her, it's an attack but she is known as the pitbull (or something like that). I keep hoping that enough Americans will vote for a change because this country has suffered under the last 8 years. Say what you want about Clinton but at least we were not in a national deficit, the economy soared, etc. I worry that people will vote for McCain/Palin just because she is hot right now! And maybe someone can tell me when the conservative republicans decided that teenage pregnancy was ok. I mean I work in education and I see young girls who are expecting and don't have the proper health care and some who don't have supportive families. Now all of a sudden it's ok or at least I think that's the message she is helping to promote. It would have been more honest of Palin to say Nope - I'm not happy about this pregnancy but this is where we are. But she announces how happy she is going to be a grandmother and I guess by the 2 kids getting married that makes it ok. Well that doesn't happen to the kids I see working in schools. There is no marriage happening. Teen pregnancy is a National Problem and abstinence is not the best information or only information these kids need to know. Not to mention the increasing rate of STD's and HIV ocurring in teens today! But I remain hopeful that people will do the right thing making the real issues their reason to vote - war, equal pay, health care, taxes, and on and on! If we were to poll people around the globe I bet the overwhelming consent would be for Obama! I hope this comes true!

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Anonymous said...

some idiot on here was belittling obamas claim to foreign experience based on that living overseas and studying international relations is not good enough..i guess palin being able to see Russia from Alaska makes her know and speak Russian. how dim witted are you? not only did he learn about foreign state of affairs he experienced it first hand...for real..not under any sniper fire..and this is way before he became a senator and had to travel official abroad to keep broadening his horizons..your darling palin only got a passport last year..and she lied about trips to Iraq and Ireland..how silly..doesn't she know shes under the lens at the moment...the rest of the country will soon see what a train wreck the reps ticket is..right after she testifies before her peers in a week or two..i bet Todd is shaking in his furry boots now that he has been subpoenaed. jokers. we don't need unserious simpletons in the white house.

Anonymous said...

I guess I don't understand all of the controversy. She's a politician therefore she's corrupt.

Rob said...

good post

Chus said...

Funny!: Sarah Palin Baby Name Generator

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for the people in Alaska. They've had a governor who is dishonest, deceitful and abuses her power. Plus, her husband, Todd Palin, bossed people around because his wife was the governor. It sounds to me that he also had the power of a governor. Anyone who doesn't follow their demand will get punished.

It seems that the only qualification of Sarah Palin for VP candidate is her looks. It seems that McCain thinks she's qualified because she's good-looking. Is that what it is?

Any woman who has a brain will NOT vote for McCain-Pain, because they put their personal interests before the country.